What is the best solution for eliminating scale in boiler type humidifier?

I have a high capacity whole house humidifier.  My humidifier gets water from a tap in the household plumbing and uses electricity to boil the water and feed the steam into the central air ducts.  I (and my HVAC service company) recently discovered that scale builds up pretty fast inside the humidifier with the local water (4.9- 9.9 GPG according to my water company).

My HVAC service company has recommended installing a water softener or reverse osmosis system to combat the scale.  I’ve been trying to research the pros and cons of these systems.  I am having some difficulty finding reliable information, especially as it pertains to my main concern–scale buildup.

Having just discovered this blog and finding that your answers to questions seem more reasonable (and informed) than most other sites, I would like to get your opinion.

Answer:  You normally would not use reverse osmosis to resolve this problem – the most economical solution is to go with a traditional cation exchange water softener.  Scale (calcium and magnesium) will be removed by the water softener and the problem should be resolved.  The reason to avoid reverse osmosis in this application is that RO water is very pure – it has nothing in it – and it wants something in it.  This makes RO water very corrosive to any piping or mechanism that is not either stainless or plastic.  Most humidifier systems are supplied with water through copper tubing, and the humidifier’s internal parts may not be 100% compatible with RO water.  You can look at some of the water softener systems that we offer on our site.  With a hardness of around 10 GPG, you should be fine with a 32,000 grain capacity system for a family up to 5 or 6 people. Hope this helps!

No cold water?

We have a Autotrol 268/460i, and just moved it to new house. There are 3 settings brine/slow rinse, fast rinse/refill and backwash going around the circle from 11 counterclockwise to 4;  I tried to “push in” and turn from where the last setting was. Is the lack of cold water pressure due to a refill function?

The washer was on rinse cycle and only droplets of H20 were coming in at a dribble. Momma was just about to shower when this began :)   The guy never gave us a manual.

Answer:  Sorry!  We did not note your question until just now (almost a week later!).  Normally the softener will stay in a “Treated Water” or “Service” position, with the arrow on the knob pointing to 6 o’clock.  The pointer knob will rotate throught the cycles you mention above during regeneration (which happens on average 1 time per week depending on control program settings).  The problem you are experiencing is due to increased water usuage during water softener regeneration at the same time you are using a lot of water for the laundry or shower.  Our guess is that the time is just set incorrectly.  With the softener set to the current time, your unit will regenerate at 2:00 in the morning.  At this time you would normally not be using much water, and you should not notice any problem.  If you want the softener to regenerate at some other time of day, just off-set the clock.  You can download a manual for this unit from our site at http://www.caitechnologies.com/water-softeners/equipment-manuals.htm.

Clack programming

I just installed my new 48000 gr water softener with Clack C series valve and vortec tank.  One of the first questions after setting the clock was the program # which was default set at 14.  The manual said to look at the guide but I have no idea what I am looking at.  I have a 3000 sq ft home with a manablock water system, 2 1/2 bath, 2 adults and a baby for now.  my water hardness is 18.5 according to the city water dept.  I want the softener to run as efficiently as possible.  Do you have any suggestions to which program code I should use to start with?

Answer: We typically recommend a program code setting of 23.  This would provide you with a 10 mintute backwash, 60 minute brine draw/slow rinse, 5 minute 2nd backwash, and 4 minute fast rinse.  You can download our program instructions for more detailed information.